Dearly missed members

Ron Hulme

A few words about Ron by his son John:

Ronald Hulme 1933 - 2016

Ron Hulmes introduction to the world of motorcycles came from his friend Ronnie Band at his garage in Horwich End Whaley Bridge. After leaving school he worked at the garage before being grafted in for his National Service in 1952 where he spent 18 months in the Suez Canal war zone. In 1955 he married the love of his life Joyce and over the next 60 years the motorcycle became the third partner in this relationship. A new Francis Barnett was purchased before the bedroom suite when they moved in their home at no 18 Reddish Avenue in 1957. After his National Service he worked on the Gas board with his friend Roy Beard where many a story was reminisced later in life. In 1959 eldest son Alan enterd the world just as he was riding in a trials competion in Wales which he had ridden to before returning home with an award. In August 1960 a second son John would arrive and the family was complete. Employment was then provided by Ferodo where he spent his remaining working life as a motor vehicle engineer until he retired in 1991 aged 58. All his life was devoted to motorcycle trials and he was very proud of his two sons who achieved success in the sport and in life. He also encouraged many younger riders into the sport when he and his friend John Cantrell introduced the Dead Easy trials at the Manchester 17 Motor Cycle Club. After retiring he found a new motorcycle intrest in Trail Riding and along with a few friends enjoyed his outings two or three times a week in his beloved Peak District. Ron Hulme passed away peacefully in Stepping Hill Hospital with his wife Joyce and close family present on 27th May 2016 after a brave enduring battle against Diabetes over a 48 year period which resulted in a stroke.

Ron Weale (Ronald John Weale)

Ron Weale who died on 6th March 2017 aged 84 years. Over many years he served Manchester 17  & motorcycling in general in many ways. A true gentleman, past President of M17 & Cheshire & North Wales Centre & also Permit Sec, ACU Benevolent fund officer and more and more and more. Rest in peace Ron we will miss you.

Norman Eyre

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Jim Capper

Jim Capper on his Cub at Mow Cop sometime in the early 1990's

A few words about him by Tim - his son:

Jim Capper first got involved with Man 17 when introducing the sport of Trials to his son, Tim in 1977.  They went to the Belle Vue motorcycle show where the club had a stand.  Soon after, they were regularly competing in Trials in the youth classes.  Always keen to get involved, Jim was a regular observer, but then got involved on the organisational side with Man 17 and the Cheshire Centre ACU.  Over the next 18 years, Jim helped introduce a strong youth Trials scene in Cheshire, with the Renthal youth Trials series, beginner Trials and the Cheshire Group Trials Series, an inter club completion that was very well supported.  He also supported both the Dave Rowland and Northern Experts trials, the two major trials run by Man 17. He was also Trials Centre Recorder for a number of years.  Both Jim and Tim were regulars on the Trials scene, and his untimely death from a heart attack in 1994 was a shock to everyone involved in the Sport.  He gave a lot to the club, but also took a lot of enjoyment and certainly left his mark on Sport through Man 17.

This is what the club newsletter said about him:


Edgar Rosenthal

Picture - 1970 , Edgar with shooting stick at a trial in Lancashire

A few words about Edgar by Henry - his son:

Question:- Why did Edgar Rosenthal, a German refugee, an industrial chemist, an intellectual with a keen interest in chess, early classical music and ancient history, and with no family background in or prior interest in motorcycling, end up in middle agebecoming President of the Cheshire Centre and North Wales ACU and holding at various times, the following positions at Manchester 17 MCC:-  President, Treasurer, Trials Secretary and Enduro Secretary as well as serving as an ACU spokesman for land rights in the North West.  In addition to all this,  Edgar was an enthusiastic observer - observing at nearly all the trials that he attended and was an efficient if somewhat pedantic road route setter for Manchester 17 Road Trials. 

Answer:- A casual remark from his wife Ellen in 1962;- “Edgar you’d better check what Henry is doing”  What Henry their son was doing was riding round a local motocross course on an old 500 Matchless - haphazardly converted to an MX bike. As Henry was then 13 and the bike weighed over 200 kilos, the remark to Edgar was both pertinent and significant.  Thus began Edgar’s long association with and passion for Off Road motorcycle sport. 

This interest never extended to riding a motorcycle himself – far too dangerous - but instead gave him an enthusiasm for the organisation and administration of the sport.  None of the positions that Edgar held or the help he gave to motorcycle sport was a burden to him.  He very much liked being part of the motorcycling community and often remarked that the common interest of the motorcycling fraternity meant that irrespective of background, profession or other outside interests there was a bond and friendship fostered by a common interest and shared goals.    

He never lost his interest in motorcycling and even later, when in poor health he did his best to observe whenever possible.  So that his interest in the sport would endure after his death, he set up his legacy - the Edgar Trophy series, trophy, replicas and prize money and, of course, as would be expected from Edgar, left instructions and the criteria by which the trophy and the prize money would be awarded. 

What Mr P said about him at his funeral:

In the almost 30 years that I new Edgar, as far as I know at least, he never threw a leg over a motorcycle – good job too .….. as the thought of him on a motorbike does not bear thinking about. Think of him in one of those tight body hugging one piece lycra suits throwing a Gas Gas up the top section at Bens Ditch. With an old school observer awarding a dodgy 3 for what was clearly a clean ride! The way he'd have acted over the mistake…. Imagine.

Anyway – Edgar, the ever supportive farther dragged into motorbike trials and later enduro's by Henry soon found himself emerged in the organisational aspects of things. He worked tirelessly promoting the interests of motorcycle sport for The Manchester 17 from observing to negotiating with government agencies and always with extreme modesty and courtesy.

Fair to the point of being pedantic, intelligent, intellectual, inspiring and tolerant his ways in all things he did are an example for us all.

His personality and intellect has provided me and all those who had close contact with him over the years with the perfect model of how to behave in all circumstances.

His strength of mind, wisdom and character will be deeply missed.

Edgar's touch will live on in our small community in the many ways he influenced and inspired us to include tolerance, patience and fairness in our sporting pastimes

Glad to have known him for so long and to have so many fond memories of him and his ways.

Ken Roberts - sometimes known as Mr P (Sir)


Keith Haining (died 16 June 1994)

Dave Linney ( with thanks to Paul Tootal)

Dave Linney, who died on 11th November 2017, was newsletter editor and social secretary at the club in the late 1960's. He was a popular central figure on club runs and camping holidays - writing up their madcap adventures in the newsletter.

Dave had a go at scrambles, trials, grass-tracking, hill-climbing, sand-racing and speedway. He was chairman of the Lancashire Grass Track Junior Riders' Club. Dave (known as Heinz) Linney put in hours of voluntary work at the Manchester 17 helping to promote the club's scrambles. He organised working parties to distribute posters and handbills, as well as preparing the course and digging in chemical toilets etc.

Dave's big love was speedway and he'd followed Belle Vue from the early 1960's right up to a month ago - home and away whenever possible. Dave had a
go himself in the early seventies, but had more success on grass and sand - including jaunts to Holland and Belgium where they paid decent start-money
for visiting English "stars" !

In later years Heinz devoted his time to the maintenance of locks and tow-paths near Poynton as a member of the Canal and River Trust.

Picture above - you'll recognise the style - paddle through the section and get a three !

Dave “Heinz” Linney was newsletter editor and social secretary at the club, and was a central figure on club runs and camping holidays – writing up their madcap adventures in the newsletter a sample is linked below:


Arthur Edwards


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Dave Rowland

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John Hartle

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