The history of Manchester 17 MCC
75th Reunion (2010)with lots of history
First Dave Rowland Trophy Trial 22nd July 1979 results
Forming the '17'
In 1935 a group of friends with a common interest in motorcycles got together and decided to form a club after responding to an advert placed by Eric Cave in the window of a cafe in Chorlton, there first meeting was in the April of that year. The question of what to call the new club apparently took some time to settle, until someone suggested that they count the number present and use that as the name.
How do you fancy paying just 'two bob' for the club Christmas dinner ?
Sounds good doesn't it ?
The problem is you're a few years too late....
The Dinner commenced at 6:30pm leaving at 8:30pm, and finally getting all the bikes going at 9:15pm they started leaving for home expecting some trouble as it had been snowing hard and blowing a blizzard. The roads were not too bad though, none of the snow drifts were more than 2 ft deep!
The first Christmas dinner cost ten pence per person and was held in a cafe in Rainow on January 19th 1936 with a sledging session before hand. Starting from the Princess Hotel on Mouldeth Road at 2pm most of the twelve members were on bikes with the toboggans being taken along in a van
The first Club Run in the log book was on January 5th 1936 to the Inter-University trial around Cheeks Hill in Buxton, afterwards the six members present went via the Cat & Fiddle to Mrs Tinley's Poached Egg Shop at Rainow, which seems to have been a regular haunt in those days.
Articles taken from "The Club History - Of Poached Eggs & Diamonds" written by Rick Stewart
Film of Manchester 17 events in the 1960's (one with sound) & the 1970 SSDT
No sound - which we guess was normal then - 8mm and super 8 film?
Film from the 1960's (this a link to our Fotki photo and video sharing site) we suggest you right click and select open in new tab so you can return here while its running if needed.
The club would dearly love more information on this - anything, who, where, when, background anything. Anything we get will be put here to act as a commentary and may be eventually lead to adding it as a soundtrack.
Many thanks to Paul Tootal for remembering such a films existed and to Gordon Snowball who kindly dug out and loaned us the films to have digitally copied.
If anyone has any films they would like to share please get in touch with Mr P (click here)
First, a snowy trial: Manchester 17 Boxing Day Trial 1968
1st trials section in the snow; very short clip - one competitor rides away from the camera
2nd trials section in the snow; first view is begins with rider approaching camera and camera pans showing ends and observer on the way which Mr P recons is Chris Worsley (of Worsley's wash fame)
3rd trials section in the snow; Mr P recons that is Booth Farm house in the background and and the 6th rider, after the one in a white jumper and wearing a beret (who cleans) is Dave Rowland on a Bultaco.
then back to 2nd trials section but with sidecars.
Who is the observer with fag on? We believe its Paul Tootal
There are several more snowy sections shown.
Next is the 1969 Lomax Trial - date, where and which club (South Liverpool?)
In trees and the second section shows a youthful Henry Rosenthal (no37?) tackle a steep decent
Club Trial at Kettleshulme
A car park scene
A small boy on a bicycle
An in and out the stream section with car park in background
Over the log in a stream section
Downhill camber / deep bog section Mr P recons that the 2nd rider and wearing a beret (who has a single dab) is Dave Rowland on a Bultaco, followed by a rider who cleans brilliantly.
Steep slippery grassy bank section,
Stream full of rubbish section
Scramble at Golden Hill Farm Pott Shrigley - is this a M17 event or ??
Arriving at the scramble track
3 Bike preparation scenes
Getting ready for the start - right in front of someone's house!
The start and off downhill. toward someone's house.
Front wheel less Husqvarna? no 13
Number 79's chain get some oil.
Getting ready for another start.
The start lights
Another race start toward the camera
The pack approaches and passes a crest
The camera pans on individual riders as they pass and ride a crest
Long shot of pack approaching and zoom?
Muddy turn rider falls
And rider remounts and get going again
Up hill dicing
Over the crest and muddy left turn go the pack
More shots of muddy left turn and up hill track
Fast section of track on left right camber
Crest shot against the sky
Shots with car park in distance and open views of surrounding countryside.
Right hand hairpin shots with washboard as they ride away from camera.
Nice close up as the chequered flag is shown - again just in from of someone's house.
Spring Trial at Chapel-en-le-Frith (1969 we guess based on the other dates we have been given?) - in warm conditions from what is being worn. Is this a Manchester 17 trial or ??
Up hill open shallow gully section and nice clean
Long shot with riders below coming thorough gate in wall and buildings
More with different angle on shallow gully later with muddy exit
More shots in same area with last rider recording a very nice clean ride
Almost dry stream section stating at broken wall
Small step with riders approaching
Typically narrow rocky stream sections
Section amongst mature trees
Is the last rider seen in the film perhaps Dave (Chippy) Murray?
Keith Rhodes interviewing Geoff Duke at a Manchester 17 reunioun (picture - Paul Tootal)