Click here for an extract from the Peak District National Park Annual Report from 1999-2000 about what we did at Roych Clough (and they still closed it to us)
RIGHTS OF WAY ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM 2016 to end of 2019:
Posted 27th December
2019 Success! Yes, in Derbyshire too,
despite the doom and gloom of some we have had success. After a hard-fought Public Inquiry in
November the TRF, GLASS and PDVUG team put the case for Pindale Road,
Castleton, being a public carriageway. The independent inspector threw out
the Peak Horsepower claim that the route was a bridleway and confirmed the
order route as a Byway Open to All Traffic. The decision was aided by User
Evidence, local knowledge of the history of the route and to those who
attended the inquiry. This shows that a concerted effort by the user
groups can protect our ancient rights to drive byways and unclassified
roads, despite the discriminative and unfounded claims of bridleway rights
and ‘public nuisance’ by anti-motoring pressure groups like GLEAM and PHP. TTFN Hugh.
Posted 2nd November
2019 Greetings, in case you might not
know the BBC 'Countryfile Autumn Diaries', Friday 1st November, showed a
program about vehicular Green Lane use in the Lake District specifically
related to two routes. If you have not seen the program then may I
suggest that you take a look. The interviewer and
two of her interviewees made sweeping negative and unsupported statements
against folk using perfectly legal vehicles on motorised Rights of Way.
Only the representative from Cumbria CC gave any neutral evidential
evidence. Noticeable by their absence were the TRF and GLASS, presumably
not having been invited. It is clear to me that the BBC is again
presenting a bias against recreational motorists and therefore may I
request that if you agree with me that the program is biased then would
you register a complaint. It takes only a few minutes of your time, go to:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/contact/complaints
TTFN Hugh
Posted 21st October
2019
Greetings, TTFN Hugh.
Last week I attended and addressed
the Public Inquiry into Callow Bank, Hathersage. It was proposed to make
the route a Bridleway unless we could show evidence of legal dedication or
sufficient evidence of motorists proving "Presumed Dedication" by
supplying User Evidence. Unfortunately there was very little evidence for
the latter claim so I am rather pessimistic about the outcome. This lack of evidence is a real
hindrance to our keeping the majority of the iconic routes that we have
used for many years. It is vital that we collect more evidence before the
next PI regarding the route at Over Haddon where it crosses the river
Lathkill. We also need evidence of use for Broadway Lane leading along
Bulltor Lane at Taddington. You could help by recording your use or
getting others that you know have ridden them. For Over Haddon we are
looking for evidence from 2000, the other lanes from around 1980s. Please
contact our coordinator at; ue_derbyshire@glass-uk.org
Posted 21st August
2019 Good news folks,
another rider has come forward to give evidence from the 1980s. We
still need more Broadway/ Bulltor Lane riders & drivers though. Those
few that we have will assist but we seriously do need more of you. Video to remind you of
the route;
We ask that you email our team, who will
send you a user evidence form to complete which can be sent back to
us for correlation - then we will pass the forms on to DCC as a
bundle. Before you write anything down please contact our dedicated
help line and give them your contact details, then they will send
you a form; Another route that we
urgently need your help with is that which runs from Back Lane,
Conksbury, just north of Youlgreave. The route passes through the
farm yard and field at Meadow Place Grange to finally exit across
the ford and up the hill just below Over Haddon. The River Lathkill
is the one that generally disappears down to a trickle in good
weather summers.
For this route we really just need some good evidence of folk simply
using the lane, whatever the time period. The video shows the
route to remind you of what we might lose;
Again, please initially contact our Team for a form and guidance;
ue_derbyshire@glass-uk.org Thanks, your patience
is appreciated. TTFN Hugh. Greetings,
Hugh.
Posted 24th June 2019
Jacob’s Ladder, Stoney Middleton.
DCC chose to review this issue at its Committee Meeting, Wednesday last,
19th June 2019. The DCC Officer’s recommendation was to apply a TRO
banning all recreational vehicles. Despite our opposition (recorded) plus
that of PDVUG, GLASS, APTR and the TRF, an 88% rejection at the online
Consultation, the final decision imposed by the Chairman, without any
discussion with his Members, was to apply a full motorised TRO on the
route. The date will need to be advertised accordingly.
We shall have to wait for the final documentation to be published before
any further action can be considered.
TTFN
Posted 15th June 2019
Greetings, (but potentially as the bringer of bad news)
https://democracy.derbyshire.gov.uk/ieL ... =279&Ver=4
Posted 8th June 2019
From ACU Headquarters June 3rd 2019 Illegal Riding In recent weeks we have received the
disappointing news that due to issues with illegal riding, the organisers
of the Powys Enduro have been forced to cancel the event as a result of
withdrawal of permission to use the Dyfi Forest. We are also aware that
land used for the Scottish Six Days Trial is under threat due to the same
problem, plus we have received reports from other parts of the country who
have either lost land or are close to losing it. The ACU would like to make it clear
that the use of Natural Resources Wales (NRW) or Forestry Commission land
is strictly controlled and their woods are not a playground for you,
likewise permission is needed to ride on open hills etc ;the length and
breadth of the country. Unless the land you intend to ride
on is a lawful right of ways or you have specific permission from the
landowner you are not allowed to use these areas, your mate down the pub
saying it’s OK isn’t considered permission! The NRW and Forest Commission are
taking steps to prevent illegal use and in conjunction with the Police
will prosecute anyone caught, you have been warned. The ACU have already taken action
against any licence holders who are caught and will not hesitate to do so
in the future. There are plenty of events you can
enter to use you bike legally including numerous practice tracks if you
want something less organised. Please, if you are a licence holder, ride
responsibly and discourage others if you know they are illegally riding,
it’s your events which they are putting at risk!! A wise man once said it’s not the
environmentalists and authorities that will kill motorcycle sport, it will
be the sport itself. They could be right - it’s in your hands!
Posted 25th April 2019
Greetings folks,
Posted 4th April 2019
Greetings,
Thanks,
Hugh.
Posted 26th January 2019
Folks, this brief note is to update you about a positive initiative
from Kirklees Council to arrange a joint operation to maintain a "green
lane" which over recent years has fallen into disrepair.
Posted 29th October 2018
Greetings,
Hugh.
Posted 19th October 2018
Do you want to protect your rights to ride and drive green
lanes?
The Peak and Derbyshire Vehicle User Group invite you to
find out more about what they do by visiting a free 'Open Day' at the Eyre
Arms, Calver, S32 3XH, between
12:30pm and 5:00pm on Saturday 27 th October.
Posted 2nd October 2018
We are coming very close to the last
minute to OBJECT to the proposed TRO on Jacobs Ladder. Hugh.
Posted 20th September 2018
Greetings all,
Posted 23rd May 2018 Greetings folks,
You may have heard or read on other websites that DCC has
been pressurised into proposing to restrict all
recreational motorised use by imposing a Traffic Regulation Order on
Jacobs Ladder, Stoney Middleton.
There is no argument that the
route is of BOAT status and that with no current TRO in force we may
legally ride it. The crux of the matter is that there are some selfish
folk out there who simply want to remove our hobby from existence. I am
not making excuses for DCC but they have been forced into this situation
by the shear volume of anti motorists availing themselves of the
Consultation process instigated by the ignorance, greed or selfish
ambitions of just a few. The route is not, as claimed by some, damaged
by motorists but entirely by a lack of maintenance on the part of the
HA. We have offered to work with the Authorities on many aspects of
future maintenance and management of this and similar routes but so far
to no avail.
If we are to retain our
Rights then we must take respectful action with our colleagues and
participate in the Consultation process. There is no requirement for you
to live locally nor to have ridden or to be riding the route, it is
simply a fact that by shear volume we must OPPOSE the proposed TRO.
Hugh.
Wetton.
Posted 4th April 2018
As many of you will know the PDNPA has opened
communication lines for public consultation regarding the little route
at Wetton, often referred to as the “Manifold Valley route”. PDVUG is of
the combined view that because of the specific circumstances of this
route we could be prepared to support a proportionate Voluntary and/or
seasonal TRO during the wettest months of each year. PDVUG has repeated
its offer to assist the Authorities with
maintenance to prevent any reoccurring deterioration of the surface.
Now you can and should have your say to the PDNPA's consultation,
making it clear that you are an INDIVIDUAL and that
you are OBJECTING to the Authority's proposals for a
full time TRO. Please encourage your colleagues to do the same.
Highlight that with only limited numbers of motorcyclists recorded as
using the route annually then with suitable maintenance and a possible
winter VR there is no need to impose a TRO of any description.
Full details of which are on the PDNPA web site which
you can contact directly using their online system by clicking the
button at the bottom of their web page
http://consult.peakdistrict.gov.uk/details.cfm?TROID=11
or you could write to; Rights of Way, Aldern House, Baslow Road,
Bakewell, Derbyshire DE45 1AE.
GLASS, PDVUG and I have already responded as organisations under the
previous step in the consultation process. Now we will be reinforcing
our case during this public stage and your recording a simple OBJECTION
to the proposal would help add weight to our argument.
Your personal OBJECTIONS must be received by the
Authority no later than 5pm on Friday 6 April 2018. So,
time to act now or we may loose our right to ride this iconic
route.
Back Lane,
Darley Dale.
The other day I received my copy of the Interim report recording the
Inspector's interim decision on this Order, dated 22 March 2018,
proposing that the whole route A-B-C be classified as a BOAT.
TTFN
Hugh.
Posted 2nd March 2018:
Greetings folks,
Posted 25th February 2018:
Click on above for a .pdf A4 size version
Posted 10th February 2018: 8 Feb 2018 New
Road, Eyam. B6521.
TTFN
Invitation to you to join the PDVUG Open Day, Saturday next, 26th October.
We will be in the Eyre Arms at Calver from around 12:30 and would be
pleased to meet up with you. Plenty of banter and advice on hand from
local activists, we will be displaying TrailWise 2 and trying our best to
answer your questions
Posted 29th July
2019
I don't know if you have seen through other media sources but DCC are
proposing to classify the whole of Broadway Lane and Bultor Lane as
Bridleway. The route is often used to link the areas around Millers
Dale, Taddington and Brushfield together. There are other lanes in the
area that we previously lost access to through NERC to become
Restricted Byways.
We might have a chance to claim Presumed Dedication of vehicular
rights if we could show at Public Inquiry that sufficient folk rode or
drove the route "unchallenged" from the 1980's.
Please write a letter of Objection to DCC and if possible provide
evidence of use. This proposal has come about because of a Definitive
Map Modification Order claim raised some years ago, it has nothing to
do with previous discriminatory DCC & PDNPA TRO's nor the separate
route from Brushfield over to Monsal Dale via Putwell Hill (lost under
a similar Order for classification).
TTFN
For information only at this stage I write to let you
know that the next meeting of DCC’s Cabinet Members for Highways is
scheduled for the 19th June (next Wednesday) in Committee Room 3, County
Hall, Matlock at 11.00am.
On the agenda at item 4(d) is the TRO for Jacob’s Ladder
in Stoney Middleton. The DCC report to the Cabinet Members is attached,
and it recommends a full-time permanent TRO. I had expected a public
inquiry but this has been ruled out on the grounds of delay and cost to
the public purse of up to £20,000.
PDVUG and no doubt GLASS and the TRF will be watching.
TTFN
Hugh.
Following on from last year's successful event just a quick note to
invite you to the next ‘Open Day Meeting’ of PDVUG. Again to be held in
the Function room at the Eyre Arms, Calver Cross Roads, Saturday April
27th. 12:30 to 17:00.
You are most welcome to drop in and have a chat, particularly about the
Peak District. The event is open to all motorised users, especially
those with an interest in the Peak District National Park area.
GLASS and Local Access Forum members will be on hand to provide guidance
and information about the local green lane network, plus answering
questions about Trail Wise 2.
TTFN.
Hugh.
You may not previously been aware of this group which has
recently been set up in conjunction with Kirklees Council with the sole
aim to collectively assist them with the repair to and future
maintenance of an old road, now used as a Green Lane. It is just outside
of Holmfirth and over the years has suffered the ravages of weather,
excessive water erosion and the all too often lack of regular
maintenance.
The Group of amalgamated interest user groups met last evening for its
third meeting. There are representatives of horse riders, local
residents, farmers, land owners, 4X4, motorcyclists, mountain bike
riders, ramblers, local historians, folk with mobility problems, in fact
anybody who is willing to work together to find consensus solutions to a
common problem. Personally, I was very impressed by the positive
attitude and atmosphere of all who attended.
We formed our Constitution and filled the Posts of
Chairwoman and Treasurer but unfortunately not a Secretary to record the
meetings.
Now,
this is where you or somebody you might know could be
able to help us by becoming the person to fulfil that role. It should
not become an onerous task but it is an important one. We propose to
meet around four times a year as a main body at Holmfirth and to
communicate via emails, small individual task orientated teams, plus a
dedicated Facebook website;
https://www.facebook.com/groups/396249867856321/
Our next meeting is scheduled for Wednesday 8th May 7pm.
Could you be the person to fill this role?? We would be
very grateful if you could.
TTFN
An information seeking type of meeting was held a few days ago and it has
been agreed to form a collective of interested parties. I have asked that
we be added to that list.
I hope that this will be a positive step towards a collective body working
together despite some differences to the benefit of all who simply wish to
respectfully avail themselves of the countryside.
TTFN
Hugh.
Thanks to those who
popped in to the PDVUG Open Day to say “hello”, despite the sleet and snow
flurry late morning.
The lucky winner of
the Prize Draw was Steven, he is already a Member of GLASS so he will have
his renewal paid for.
I think that the new
Trailwise2 created most interest although there were some questions about
past and potential lane closures. I hope that we were able to answer the
questions.
TTFN
Your fresh OBJECTION must be completed before Friday 5th October 2018
and we really do need everybody to get involved. The anti motorists
will be pulling out every body they can to complete the survey and we
must do the same.
There is no controversy over the legality of this BOAT only our RIGHT
to use the lane brought by the selfish people who do not want to share
the countryside.
Here again is the link;
Thanks.
I understand that the antis have recently 'up'd' their game by printing
leaflets and are sending them to residents around the Stoney Middleton
area (and no doubt beyond too). They are massing their numbers against us
and if they run true to form no doubt they will secure a high vote in
support of their proposed Traffic Regulation Order.
If we want to keep this byway open then we too must ensure that a high
number of folks object to the proposal. It is essential therefore that we
muster as many folk as we can to complete the online consultation. It does
not take long to complete the survey, the comment boxes are relatively
short so gather your thoughts together, be polite and brief.
Remember that this route is a byway for all users. There are eight
designated footpaths in the immediate area for walkers to use, Restricted
Byways plus a variety of bridleways for horse riders. If others do not
want to share with we few motorists then they have plenty of options
available to them. The average non motorist is not against us as was
proven by the original consultation.
To the single proposal of a TRO there are many alternatives which could
include any of the following ideas such as; not to impose a TRO but to
repair the results of water erosion, to maintain the route as a BOAT;
adoption of the route for local additional voluntary repair and
maintenance as required and proposed by PDVUG; if really concerned about
vehicle width then perhaps introduce a uni-directional flow of vehicles;
introduce a system of winter seasonal 4X4 Voluntary Restraint; a winter
seasonal TRO of 4X4 vehicles to additionally protect the environment and
character; a winter seasonal VR restricting all motor vehicle access in
consultation with PDVUG; GLASS and the TRF; restriction of all vehicles on
Sundays and Bank Holidays; introduction of a permit access system similar
to that as applied by other Highway Authorities. If the road was cleared
of debris and overgrown vegetation there would be plenty of access width.
You may well have your own priorities, superior to my example ideas.
I have completed my own personal consultation and submitted a written
Objection on behalf of Manchester 17 MCC.
This is a public road and we should keep it open to motorists. You do not
need to live in Derbyshire nor even ride the route regularly, but we do
need your support now before the time runs out. Please complete the survey
at;
http://www.derbyshire.gov.uk/consultations
TTFN
Hugh.
As a matter of fact according to the current DCC mapping portal there
are 6 designated footpaths in the immediate vicinity of the one subject
BOAT route.
Please email or write to DCC
and recommend that they do not proceed with the proposal but that they
work with us to find a consensus solution. If you choose to respond to
the online questionnaire please ensure that you state that you are
Opposing the proposal;
TTFN
This is only an interim decision and not yet final, although the
Inspector has proposed a modification to the order it will still have to
be publicly advertised before a final decision can be made and the
status confirmed. Once the proposed decision is ratified we might have a
chance to smile.
An electronic version of the Back Lane decision will shortly appear on
the Inspectorate's web site here - https://www.gov.uk/.../rights-of-way-order-information...
Please continue to treat this route with suitable respect and speed as
it passes close to homes, farms and where children might be playing.
Just a quick
note to let you know that your representatives from PDVUG attended the
Derbyshire CC Committee meeting, Monday last, at which the Committee
accepted the Officers’ Report agreeing that the route which many of us
commonly refer to as ‘Excelsior’ should be recorded as a Byway Open to
All Traffic.
The route does
not actually have a name, as you know, it simply connects between New
Road, Eyam, B6521 and the Calver Grindleford B6001.
The ‘opposition’
claimed that the Committee would not be the final arbitrators and that
when the route is formally classed as BOAT status they would object,
thereby forcing a Public Inquiry. There was some debate about the start
date for User Evidence, more of which may be required in the future
presuming that a PI will be called. I will let you know more details in
due course but that could be many months off yet.
A big "Thank
you" to all of you who had already presented User Evidence to DCC.
TTFN.
Hugh.
Here is your update regarding New Road, Eyam, connecting over the hill
to Grindleford. The route over many months has had to be closed to heavy
traffic because of a land slide of the supporting banking. The DCC HA is
going to apply a Traffic Regulation Order for Temporary Closure to
prohibit motorised vehicles however at Committee they recently agreed,
against Opposition, to permit an exemption for solo motorcyclists. As
promised my contact at DCC kindly 'phoned me this afternoon to confirm
that the paperwork is progressing and that when finalised I will be sent
a copy. It was confirmed that it is fine for us to ride the 'narrowed'
section but speed and noise must be restricted to prevent further
Objections to the exemption. I agreed that the courtesy of giving
pedestrians and non motorised users precedence is a given option by all
responsible riders. TTFN.
Hugh.
1 Feb 2018
New Lane, Eyam, TTRO
"Great news, hot off the press. This morning PDVUG attended the DCC Highways, Transport and Infrastructure Meeting at which the Temporary TRO placed upon New Lane, Eyam was discussed. I am pleased to report that following requests specifically by PDVUG, GLASS and Manchester 17 MCC the Committee decided, against opposition, in favour of permitting an exemption for use by solo motorcycles. However, we will need to prove that we respect their investment by showing suitable consideration to the residents and other users. I am of course referring specifically to speed, noise and simple common courtesies. The route will be narrow so subject to a nominal speed restraint and it will be monitored for safety. The exemption is expected to come into force around Saturday 10th February 2018 so please allow a week to pass before venturing up there. It is now up to us to prove our worth if we want to try and keep lanes open in the Peak District. TTFN"
Rights Of Way Annual Report 14 November 2017.
I have continued to attend meetings with PDVUG, PDNPA and the Planning Inspectorate to discuss Rights Of Way issues.
I am still very concerned that despite our best efforts the PDNPA continues to endeavour to implement discriminatory Permanent Traffic Restriction Orders against all motorised vehicle users on ‘Green Lanes’ in the National Park.
Our actions, with the assistance of PDVUG, secured the exemptions for the Bemrose and Reliance Trials from the TRO placed upon Washgate.
After much effort by PDVUG the decision of the Public Inspector finding against the status of Derby Lane has been overturned but the PDNPA TRO will still prevent our use of the route. Brushfield and Putwell Hill have both been lost to trail riders as the route was classified following the DMMO application to Bridleway and footpath. I must reiterate that it is vitally important that we submit as many genuine User Evidence Forms as is possible to future inquiries.
Action by PDVUG was instrumental in having Minninglow and Pindale both recorded as being BOAT status. We, in conjunction with a number of TRF Groups, GLASS and PDVUG are supporting a Voluntary Restraint requested by the PDNPA on Minninglow this winter.
I have submitted a report to the PDNPA against their proposed TRO on the UCH at Wetton, often referred to as the Manifold Valley route. I am waiting for the second stage to be announced before I can try to proceed further.
Derbyshire County Council is seeking to close a BOAT, Jacobs Ladder, Stoney Middleton. PDVUG is concerned that there are two additional potential closures of UCHs in the Taddington area, plus others to follow in quick succession.The opposition groups manage to get more people to complain than we muster to object or record personal usage, this imbalance must be dramatically addressed or we shall loose more lanes.
Action by ourselves, PDVUG and GLASS helped to secure an exemption for motorcycles to continue to use New Road, Eyam, whilst a general TRO for repair work is in action.
I have been liaising with Cheshire Constabulary and Cheshire East County Council HA to try and have the obstruction on Heild Lane, Wildboarclough, removed. There is a legal complication which must be sorted before any further action can be pursued. I have also undertaken meetings with Cheshire Constabulary to improve relationships between legitimate riders and the Police.
Hugh
Posted 29th October 2017
Greetings folks,
Just a few updates on local issues for you,
Jacobs Ladder, Stoney
Middleton - the DCC HA met
on Friday last to discuss the proposal of implementing a TRO on this
little lane just outside of Eyam. PDVUG attended to oppose the
proposition but it was supported by PHP and the rest of the anti
motorist brigade. This means that DCC will start proceedings which are
likely to take some time to process. We are fully represented by PDVUG
with whom I am working.
New Lane, Eyam - this route remains closed to four wheeled vehicles but there is still an exemption for motorcyclists to use the lane.
Pindale and Minninglow - just to remind you that both routes received BOAT status earlier this year as a direct intervention of ourselves and PDVUG.
Minninglow and Gallowlow - both sections of this route get very wet over the winter months and so PDVUG, GLASS and Treadlightly are working with the PDNPA to request a Voluntary Restraint of use. The National TRF are opposed to such measures in the Peak District but as in the past I seriously recommend that we support the request along with the Manchester Group of the TRF, plus other motorcycle groups in the area.
Heild End, Wildboarclough - regrettably this route remains in dispute and I ask for your restraint in not attempting to use it. I have remained in direct contact with both the local farmer and the Cheshire Constabulary. The main issue at the moment is that there is a dispute over the legality of the route but I am entering into working with Cheshire East CC HA to establish both clarity and probable removal of any obstructions. I should add that the farmer concerned has no problems with us but he has been plagued by anti social behaviour of various kinds.
Back Ecton, Wetton Mill - the PDNPA APR Committee at Stage 1 has decided to further investigate and implement a full TRO on the route. Effectively this means that they must move to Stage 2 at which we can try to apply a positive influence to minimise or even over turn the previous decision. I have already entered into correspondence with the PDNPA and of course this will be followed up in the future. This route at present does not have a request for Voluntary Restraint but it would assist our cause if the route was not used over the wet winter months. Should be fine when crisp and dry but a problem during prolonged wet periods.
TTFN
Hugh.
Posted 24th September 2017
Back of Ecton to Wetton Manifold Valley
route.
Folks,
This quiet little route is currently under extra
scrutiny by the PDNPA for the possible imposition of a Permanent Traffic
Regulation, TRO.
The
PDNPA ARP Committee met on Friday 15th September to discuss at Stage 1
the possibility of introducing a Permanent TRO. Naturally we in
conjunction with PDVUG, GLASS and the TRF registered our objections to
the proposal. Along with PDVUG we suggested that a Seasonal TRO would be
applicable to protect the route from extra erosion during the wet winter
months. I am pleased to report that the Parish Council also supported
the proposal for a restricted Seasonal TRO.
You
may recall that two years ago we operated a Voluntary Restriction on
this lane, sadly we were let down by only a few non members choosing to
ignore the request. Well, we can’t be held accountable for the
irresponsible actions of others.
The
principle causes of the small areas to become rutted are the direct
result of increased rainfall plus a lack of repairs and maintenance by
the Highway Authority. Through PDVUG we have continued to offer to
provide our voluntary support to help repair, maintain and improve the
localised conditions.
The
PDNPA ARP voted to move to a Stage 2 Consultation. Unfortunately I could
not attend the meeting so I have carefully listened to the audio
recording and as a result I have written to the Chairman with a number
of observations.
I
will back with an update before the next ARP meeting, in the meantime if
you want to listen to the meeting follow the link and click on the
little button next to the #6;
https://democracy.peakdistrict.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=133&MId=1573&Ver=4
TTFN
Hugh.
Posted 5th August 2017
We’re having a ‘last push’
to harvest user statements from people who have used these lanes on
motor bikes (and/or in cars) during the period before 2004, to add to
our submission to DCC. Showing regular use for 20 years before 2004 is
the only way we will save these routes for motorists.
1.
Bulltor Lane / Broadway Lane (Brushfield to
Priestcliffe) - for more info reply to bulltor@glass-uk.org
2.
Dokindale / Dakindale Road (Taddington)
- for more info reply to taddington@glass-uk.org
Below are links to pdf files containing guidance, maps and a blank user
form.
Broadway Bull Tor UEF guidance
Please complete a user form
for either of these routes if you used either during the 1980s or 1990s.
Best to print the form and send it to the address given by ‘snail mail’
please (hand written statements are preferred by DCC). A signed
map showing the route ridden should also be enclosed.
If you can get the completed
forms back no later than 12th August we should be able to get them
accepted by the Authority.
TTFN
Hugh.
Posted 20th July 2017 Greetings
folks,
A few lines to let you know that I
have just been informed that the final paperwork has been completed by
the PDNPA to close Washgate to all casual recreational motorists and
that the Order comes into force on 21st July 2017. Disappointing news, but yet some
positivity on the other hand in that at least access for the Bemrose and
Reliance Trials has been extended by annual application. Apologies for not being able to keep
it open all year for at least all motorcyclists but still part of a cake
is better than none. TTFN Hugh
Posted 3rd July 2017
Last month I, PDVUG and
GLASS, wrote to a DCC Consultation regarding a proposed TRO to be
applied to New Road, Eyam, requesting an exemption for motorcyclists.
The route connects Eyam to Grindleford and the TRO is to address the
problems of land slippage. "Thank
you for your comments regarding the use of New Road, Eyam by Motor
cycles. It is of course now for us to return
and respect the trust of DCC. TTFN Hugh.
Posted 29th June 2017
GLASS has been formally
consulted by the Derbyshire County Council ROW Office in connection with
a Byway claim for Broadway Lane & Bull Tor Lane, in the Parishes of
Brushfield and Taddington, in Derbyshire. We We arrears are
seeking those of you who have used this route between 1984 and 2004. A
research team has been set up specifically to collate all available user
evidence relating to the route in question.
Here is a pdf file containing details of the request
for information to help save this green
lane. It also includes a map to show the location. Please
have a look to see if you can help, and if you can, let us know right
away by replying to our dedicated mailbox at bulltor@glass-uk.org
If you have already seen a
similar request via social media or the GLASS Bulletin, please accept my
apologies for repeating it, but we wish to reach as wide an audience as
possible in the green lane fraternity so please pass this message onto
friends and family too."
Thanks.
TTFN
Hugh.
Posted 3rd May 2017
Greetings,
On Sunday last, I spent the day at the invitation of the Derbyshire
Police Rural Crime Team looking at possible illegal use of some of the
routes in the Peak District. I thought that I should share a few of the
outcomes with you.
I had the opportunity to speak with local residents and farmers, which I
found very interesting and in certain respects enlightening. I must say
that I got the opinion that they are not simply 'against' all vehicle
users but only those who ride past at inappropriate speeds, noise level
and some night time use.
One farmer expressed concern that where some users have accelerated hard
on loose surfaces it is creating ruts and scattering the surface
material. He told me that the majority of riders are just fine when they
show respect to the land and stock but unfortunately the bad ones, whom
we are sure are not our members, are causing damage and that is why he
reluctantly would rather that we were not there. Parts of one of his
fields have been churned up by inappropriate off-piste use. I know the
areas to which he refers and can acknowledge his point of view.
Another farmer told me how increasingly in the early hours of the
morning he has been out 'lambing' and has repeatedly heard and seen folk
using the lanes at around 03:30. Now with rural crime in respect of farm
thefts and intimidation of farmer workers increasing he is naturally
concerned, just as you and I would be. He told me that he asked one
small group why they were there at that hour and was told that they were
simply following their sat nav and got lost, would you simply follow a
sat nav up Putwell Hill at that hour
Another
told him that they were simply on their way home from the pub
Local residents related the same experiences of their concerns at the
perception of
intimidation, theft, etc, adding that most riders are reasonable but how
can they make a decision under similar circumstances.
The Police officers I accompanied yesterday are ex-bikers themselves and
whilst they empathise with some of our concerns their job is to catch
those who bring the rest of us into disrepute. Personally, I really do
hope that they catch some of the criminal fraternity since it is they
who are simply spoiling it for the rest of us.
Well, I thought that I should just share this experience with you in the
hope that we can perhaps look at the picture from a slightly different
view point and perhaps pass the message on to others.
May I also remind, or even inform, folk that we can no longer use Derby
Lane, which has a Permanent TRO imposed by the PDNPA
nor
Brushfield/Putwell Hill which has been formally classified as a
Bridleway. Of recent months I have met other motorised users in the area
who did not know of the closures, fortunately they were not on either
lane.
The signs on Long Rake at Derby Lane are perfectly clear to see but
those on Brushfield, in my opinion, are not at the Putwell end which is
a point that I shall be posing to the relevant authorities in due
course.
I am very pleased to record that we did not experience any inappropriate
behaviour on the routes.
Just as an update, two lanes that we can no longer ride, Brushfield is
now a Bridleway; Derby Lane is subject to a Permanent TRO, but on a
happier note the PDVUG requested VR on Minninglow/Gallowlow has now
ended. A big thank you to all who supported the request.
Please consider
joining the Trail Riders Fellowship,
www.trf.org.uk/wp-join-the-trf/,
as their collective funds help to fight the inappropriate closure of
lanes.
TTFN
Hugh.
Posted 3rd April 2017
Preserving Green Lanes in the Peak District.
I wonder, please, if the Peak & Derbyshire Vehicle User Group (PDVUG) could make a plea for assistance from readers who in years gone by may have ridden green lanes in the Peak District? PDVUG acts to be one voice for national recreational motoring groups and for local clubs whose members use green lanes in the Peak District and Derbyshire in general, by maintaining a dialogue with the Peak District National Park Authority (PDNPA) and Derbyshire County Council (DCC).
The Group fights to ensure that as many lanes as possible are recorded formally by DCC as having vehicle rights and PDVUG challenges the actions of the PDNPA, which appears, by its actions, to have a mission to put Traffic Regulation Orders on many of the green lanes in order to exclude recreational riders from the Peak District.
Currently, DCC is undertaking a review of over 100applications for some disputed rights of way and for many ‘unsealed' unclassified roads to be confirmed as byways open to all traffic (BOATS). The review of each lane involves DCC researching historical maps and legal documents dating from around 1750 to the present day. Sadly we are losing lanes because the available evidence is lacking historical evidence of modern vehicle usage. The best way that we can prevent lanes, which we currently ride, becoming classified as bridleways and footpaths is to provide what is called “User Evidence”.
Proving actual vehicle use can often override the negative historical evidence and is the best way to secure a lane's future. User evidence takes the form of a statement of prior use by means of a brief questionnaire being completed by anyone who has ridden a particular lane.
Unfortunately, due to the way the law is written, we need evidence of vehicle use for a 20 year period, which is usually based from around 1980 to 2004.Many people currently riding the lanes did not do so in the1980s and 90s, either because they are new to the activity or are simply too young. Our plea is to your older readers who still ride or have ridden lanes in the Peak District to let us know if they would be willing to support our efforts by sending a very brief email to us at PDVUG@yahoo.com We can also be found on Facebook under PDVUG and Twitter @PDVUG.To every respondent, we would forward a map showing the lanes for which we need user evidence and asking them to complete asimple questionnaire. That way we can capture any riding history and help to keep the lanes open now and for future generations.
Yours faithfully,
Nigel Bennett,
Chairman PDVUG, email PDVUG@yahoo.com
this letter is also available to download as a .pdf file here
Posted 18th March2017
"Greetings,
Despite our efforts the final nail has been added to the coffin of
Monksdale Lane, Tideswell.
The file that I was going to attach is too large but basically it simply
confirms that the lower section between Summer Cross and Sherwood Road is
no longer a route for us to use, so blot it off your maps and gpx files.
I expect that the road signs will be erected fairly swiftly following the
six week objection period, which started 24th February 2017.
The upper section from Wheston Hall/Middle Farm, often incorrectly
referred to as part of Monksdale is Wheston BOAT 7 and can still be
ridden. However, since it shares with the Pennine Bridleway who knows for
how long?
TTFN
Hugh."
Posted 5th March2017:
Greetings,
Simply to provide you with
an update with regards to Washgate.
I, plus Alan Kind representing the ACU and
Mike Gallagher representing the Poachers MCC, attended and addressed the
Meeting of the ARP Committee yesterday, 3rd March 2017,
on your
behalf.
The meeting was to consider only the exemption
section of the proposed Permanent Traffic Regulation Order.
The official audio recording can be found at;
The Committee still intends to apply a Permanent TRO thereby basically
banning all recreational motor vehicles but with a specified exception for
two named trials events; Bemrose and Reliance.
However, the exemption has responsibilities and duties attached to it and
could be withdrawn so not a 'Right' to run.
Nevertheless, I see this outcome as a significant movement forward in our
continuing efforts of endeavouring to build positive relationships with
the PDNPA and hopefully the other user groups too.
TTFN
Posted 28th February 2017:
Greetings,
Just to keep you up to date
today I received an email from the PDNPA informing me of the
proposed Audit Resources and Performance Committee meeting;
Dear Sir/Madam
Washgate – Proposed Traffic Regulation Order
I last wrote to you in November 2016 to advise you of your opportunity to make representations on the Authority’s proposed modification relating to a traffic regulation order exemption covering named motorcycle events. Since then, we have been carefully considering the responses in order to determine how to proceed on this route.
This is to notify you that it
is proposed that a report will be taken to the next meeting of the
Audit Resource and Performance Committee on 3 March 2017. Papers are
available at
https://democracy.peakdistrict.gov.uk.
You can listen to the meeting live and following the meeting via audio webcasting which is available using the above link. You can also speak at the meeting if we receive your request by Noon on Wednesday 1 March 2017. More details about the public participation scheme can be obtained from DemocraticServices@peakdistrict.gov.ukor by phoning 01629 816362.
Please note that forward work
plans are provided and you may subscribe for updates at
https://democracy.peakdistrict.gov.uk.
Yours faithfully
Sue Smith
Rights of Way Officer
To aid your locating the correct area and paperwork simply follow my link below and look at Item #6
I have not yet had time to read nor consider the paperwork.
TTFN
Hugh.
Posted 11th February 2017:
Derby Lane Update
Greetings,
Today I received a communication from the PDNPA and I am hardly surprised
by the result despite our past efforts. Two pronged attack really, PINS do
not want to accept it as a BOAT and PDNPA want us off it anyway so
complete Catch 22 position.
In response to those who might ask for an alternative non tarmac route, I
can tell you that there are no alternative non tarmac routes for
motorcyclists to use but as a rambler you could always walk Moneyash
Footpaths 15; 18; 20 and 24. In the future you will also be able to walk
the to become Restricted Byway which was Derby Lane. If you took up caving
you could use your motorcycle to visit Derby Lane, caving fits in with the
mushroom syndrome of keeping you in the dark, you just need the bull s@@t!
When one reads all of the paperwork it really makes one think just how the
PDNPA contradicts itself.
And for those of you who suffer with insomnia and would like to read the
paperwork I attach the relevant three files:
1702 Derby Lane - Notice of Making.pdf
TTFN
Hugh.
Posted 2nd February 2017:
Greetings,
I have recently received notification through the PDVUG network that
Staffordshire CC has as an Emergency Closure placed a Temporary TRO on both
sections of Hollinsclough.
This action apparently is required because of severe land slippage, the
current TTRO might need to be extended but I will try and keep you advised of
progress.
Grid references; SK062 662 to 065 665 and SK 063 664 to 065 659
Trailwise references; SK 0666-01; SK 0666-02 & SK 0666-04
Trailwise will be updated.
If you meet any other riders or 4X4 users please advise them not to use the
routes.
TTFN
Hugh.
13 January 2017
Greetings folks,
Happy New Year. I thought that I should give you an update on the route known
as Brushfield and Putwell Hill, opposite Monsal Dale Head. Regrettably my
first update for the year is not a happy one.
The first point for me to make is that the Order on this route is not a Traffic Regulation Order, TRO, but it is a Definitive Map Modification Order, in other words it was brought about by a claimant wishing to claim the route as having motor vehicle rights. The two systems operate in a similar way to each other but they are different. So, we need to register in our minds that we are dealing with the outcome of a DMMO claim.
As I understand the process the Order had already been "issued" for Bridleway/Footpath by DCC (the Highway Authority) but it could not be confirmed due to objections. It was then subject to a Public Inquiry at which it was modified to a "Bridleway and footpath" as an "Interim Decision" by the Inspector. Again this wasn't Confirmed by the Secretary of State due to objections so another PI was held to hear those objections.
Despite the arguments at the second PI to which I, plus TRF Members, PDVUG and TRF, gave evidence the Inspector decided to confirm the DMMO without any major changes other than to remove the word 'footpath'. As there were no significant changes, it didn't need to be further advertised nor consulted about.
This means so far as I understand it that the DMMO Order has been 'Confirmed on behalf of the Sectretary of State' as a Bridleway and there is no further process to complete. As soon as signs are erected, users are deemed to know about the revised status, and must not ride/drive the lane, I have heard that signs have been erected although I have not seen them myself.
There is a 6 week window for a legal challenge via the High Court, after the Inspector's final decision was published. If there is no such legal appeal in place then as I see it we have no justification for continuing to ride/drive the route. As far as I know there hasn't been made any challenge, as it could be potentially very costly if the challenger was to loose the challenge.
If anybody should like to read the final documentation then please follow the
link;
So, after all of that I must advise that you do not ride/drive the route.
I am additionally sure that recording equipment will be watching and folk who do ride it will be reported to the Police in due course.
Another loss to democracy by those who wish to discriminate against us, still
we again tried to seek a compromise solution to accommodate all.
TTFN
Hugh.
3rd December 2016
Minninglow & Gallowlow Lanes, Voluntary restraint.
Folks,
Just to let you know that LARA has requested please a Voluntary Restraint that
we do not use this route until 1st May 2017.
The route gets very water logged, liable to damage on either sides of the water
filled ruts and quite honestly unpleasant to ride. Last year we had a similar
situation, I am pleased to record that very few people chose to ignore the
request so it was deemed a success. Let's hope that we can improve on last year
;)
The situation around Back Ecton is under review and may need a similar VR
request but I will update you as things develop.
Please pass this information onto other riders and 4X4 that you might meet in
the area.
Thanks for your support it is much appreciated.
TTFN
Hugh.
Update 4th November
Washgate update.
It is with great pleasure and relief that I can tell you that the PDNPA is seriously considering a modification to their proposed TRO on Washgate.
It is proposed that subject to certain conditions the Dave Rowland, Bemrose, Reliance and Northern Experts Trials will all be granted exemption to continue to use Washgate.
I ask that all who will be affected by this, especially those who are competitors, past present and future, writes a short letter of appreciation to say who they are, where they live and why this exemption is so important to them.
The proposal still needs to be ratified by the ARP Committee and your letters of appreciation will go along way to smoothing the passage.
Please write to Sue Smith at; sue.smith@peakdistrict.gov.uk and send me a copy too.
Kind regards,
Hugh Cleary,
Rights Of Way Officer.
Ps I still need the requested historical brochures if you have any.
Notification document Washgates from PDNP
UPDATE 3rd November
This is about Monksdale Lane, to the West of Tideswell, Derbyshire. You may know it by a different name, but it is very distinctive as it has four 90 degree bends in it. It runs between Summer Cross (near Monksdale House) and Meadow Lane, SK 13704 75238 and SK 14854 74148.
Trailwise references are SK1375-01 and SK1374-01. (http://tinyurl.com/gwkk8qy and http://tinyurl.com/zm6ooch )
The historical evidence for proving Monksdale Lane was a public carriageway is very weak and most probably t
he only way we are going to be able to keep this lane open is to show it has been used for recreational motoring for the 20 years from 1984 to 2004.Usage after 2004 won’t count due to the effects of the NERC Act and the date of the BOAT claim for this lane.
GLASS has set up a unique email account
monksdale@glass-uk.org to collect evidence of use. Please seek out anyone who has recollections, and/or pictures, of driving Monksdale Lane from 1984 onwards, or who has a relative who may have done so. One year or twenty years, it doesn’t matter because taken altogether it will help us to argue for common law dedication of the route. Initially, people should just say the route was used and GLASS people will get back to them with more details.
A motor car, motor cycle or any combination of the two will do. Please forward your contact details to
monksdale@glass-uk.orgIf you ride or drive the lane in the near future, ask any
other motorists you see on the lane if they used it before 2004.
Did their father / grandfather / stepfather / mother drive it?
All related queries and / or answers to
monksdale@glass-uk.org please!UPDATE 10 October 2016
"Greetings,
The DCC are undertaking a survey of views regarding their proposal to modify the surface of part of the route known as Chapel Gate.
If you should like to take part perhaps as a walker, mountain bike rider or horse rider then please follow the link;
If the suggested work was designed to aid access for less abled groups then I would fully support the proposal (thumbs emoji) but it is fine in its current state for everybody else in my opinion. I suspect that the work is only to improve the section for horse riding purposes (:huh emoji):
You may recall that this is one of the iconic lanes that were closed by the PDNPA through a permanent TRO to all recreational motorists, it is still a BOAT - but not for All Traffic as the classification describes.
You might also wish to record your views regarding Jacobs' Ladder at Stoney Middleton, again perhaps in your capacity as a rambler, mountain biker or equestrian;
Personally, I think that the proposed monies to upgrade Chapel Gate would be better spent improving the drainage facilities on Jacobs' Ladder which is a true BOAT, at present!
I am sure that recreational motorists would be prepared to assist with voluntary work parties or part funding of the repairs and maintenance of BOATs if we had an honest solution to the perceived problems of the anti motorist groups".
TTFN
Hugh.
Update for Washgate 29th Sept 2016;
I am today able to provide you with some news, taken from the very latest PDNPA ROW Access Newsletter;
"At the September Audit Resource and Performance committee meeting, Members resolved to consider an amendment to its proposal for a permanent Traffic Regulation Order (TRO) to prohibit mechanically propelled vehicles at all times on the Washgate route save for named motorcycle trails (Bemrose, Reliance, Dave Rowland and Northern Experts).
We will be carrying out a short public consultation. Details will be at www.peakdistrict.gov.uk/consultations Statutory consultees, landowners and everyone who responded to the previous consultations will be notified of this further opportunity to submit views. These will then be reported to a future meeting of the Committee when Members will be making a decision on how to proceed.”
Please search your records for programmes, photos plus any other form of
historical evidence of these trials that you might be able to loan to
aid my construction of evidence of use. This historical evidence could
be critical to our continued use for future trials.
Thank you,
Hugh
Consultation to prohibit motorised vehicles on BOAT 15,
known as Jacob’s Ladder, Stoney Middleton.
Following many hostile enquiries to the DCC by anti motorist lobbying groups the DCC has been made to seek permission to Consult on imposing some form of Traffic Regulation Order onto Jacob’s Ladder.
This steep and fairly wide lane, clearly
signposted as a BOAT, runs adjacent to the parish church of St Martin in
Stoney Middleton, uphill to join the Eyam to Grindleford road, B6521 New
Road. The surface is basically bedrock with a covering of loose stone and
rock debris washed off the hillside. The situation has worsened in recent
years in that there has been no maintenance to the lane and there is no
method of water control therefore the lower corner section is gradually
being eroded by rain water run off.
DCC has placed their initial consultation on the internet
for completion. Please use the following link;
https://www.derbyshire.gov.uk/council/have_your_say/consultation_search/Consultation_search_index/proposal_to_introduce_a_traffic_regulation_order_at_stoney_middleton_byway.asp
It would be really positive if all of our rambler and mountain
bike friends who use the route knew about this consultation and filled in
a form to show just how well we actually do get along together
May I ask that you please look through your files and see
if you can find any photographs, brochures of performance trials, etc,
using this little lane and to send copies of them to me so that I may
start to collate a portfolio of use.
Thanks.
Hugh Cleary, ROW Officer. 28th September 2016
Update: 2nd September 2016
Derby Lane, Moneyash.
You may recall that some months back DCC submitted an Application to the
Public Inspectorate to award the route known as 'Derby Lane' BOAT
status.The application was objected to and so I wrote on your behalf to
record support for the application. I presented historical evidence which
I considered crucial to the Application.
On the 4th August last I attended an on site meeting with the Public
Inspector along with a representative from DCC Legal and PDVUG plus one
from the ‘opposition’.
We walked and inspected the whole route and I was able to explain in
detail my reasons for submitting an Objection to some of the evidence
provided by the anti motorists group. It was a very fair and frank meeting
and I am satisfied that the Inspector attended with an open mind.
We shall have to wait now for his decision but as soon as I know something
I shall give you an update.
TTFN
Hugh
Washgates Update also 2nd September 2016:
Greetings folks,
Yesterday, in my capacity as ROW Manchester Group TRF and Manchester 17
MCC, I received a letter from Sue Smith of the Peak District National Park
Authorities Rights Of Way Team. The interesting parts are copied here for
your information.
Washgate – Proposed Traffic Regulation Order
I last wrote to you in March 2016 to advise you of your opportunity to
make representations on the Authority’s proposal for a permanent traffic
regulation order restricting mechanically propelled vehicles at all times
on the above route. Since then, we have been carefully considering the
responses in order to determine how to proceed on this route.
This is to notify you that it is proposed that a report will be taken to
the next meeting of the Audit Resource and Performance Committee on 16
September 2016. Papers will be available 7 days before at https://democracy.peakdistrict.gov.uk.
You can listen to the meeting live and for at least 4 weeks following the
meeting via audio webcasting which is available using this link. You can
also speak at the meeting if we receive your request by Noon on the
Wednesday before. More details about the public participation scheme can
be obtained from DemocraticServices@peakdistrict.gov.uk or
by phoning 01629 816362.
Unfortunately, I will not be able to attend the proposed Meeting as I
shall be away until the 25th of September but at least one PDVUG Member
will be in attendance to watch and listen. As soon as I can after the
meeting I will update you.
If anybody who reads this Post and rides the route over the coming week
could take some photos or a 'quiet' video and send them to me I should be
most grateful. I am particularly keen to obtain a photo to compare the
current conditions to that shown in the following photo from 1946.
Thanks,
Hugh.
A few words from Mr P:
The Nations National Parks including The Peak District Nation Park must not be allowed to become the stage for a simple minded plan “for quiet enjoyment” at the cost of the loss of rights, culture, heritage and all those things that added together made them what they are. They are wonderful places not only because of what they look like but because of what can be done there. There is space for everyone to enjoy the parks in their own way and we must not let self-interested groups impose their prejudice on the rest of us. Our national parks are for everyone not just those who want to put a pair of hiking boots and moan at everyone else they come across or those who want to sit and fall asleep looking at a landscape that no longer reflects what made it the way it is.
We, YOU YES – YOU, me and everyone who wants to continue to enjoy our National Parks and, the Peak District in particular, in our way have to stand up NOW and stop the prejudiced Peak District National Park Authority acting to wipe out the rights our fathers enjoyed and with them the heritage and culture that made the parks what they are. This small band of short sighted authoritarians are busy spending huge amounts of our money responding to the completely unjustified demands of well-funded selfish pressure groups to extinguish our rights simply because we are motorcyclists. That is prejudice. And just like everywhere everyone has the responsibility to stand up against it. If we were a religious or racial group we would have been protected against these people – as it is we have to stand up for ourselves. Let’s do just that NOW.
